Forecasting Winners

[Shawn_Carson]

Figured I should hurry and get something up here since Michael was gracious enough to grant me this forum, and I see that quite a few people have already visited here. My passion is forecasting winners of sporting events using astrology. As such, this topic won't appeal to everybody, but I am hoping to find even one kindred soul here to share in the fun.
There are more than several different methods that astrologers use to predict the outcome of a sporting match, and I've tried a few. The methods that I employ now I learned from a very generous minded astrologer named, Courtney Roberts. Some of you may know her, she lives in NY City and has a nice website @ http://www.courtneyrobertshome.com. In fact her website goes into great detail about her "Real Time" methods. I highly recommend that you visit the Sports and Real Time feature there and absorb all you can.
For tonite, I am liking Phil Jackson and the Los Angeles Lakers to defeat the Houston Rockets, on the road. Arrived at that opinion by looking at tonite's transits to Jackson's chart and making particular notice of the lucky, beneficent influence of transiting Moon conjunct his Natal Jupiter, during the game.Coupled with supportive aspects from the transiting Sun and Uranus to Natal Saturn, Jackson's transits for this evening are "above average"
His counterpart, coach Rick Adelman of the Houston Rockets seems less fortunate as the transiting Moon will be conjunct his Neptune. Transiting Mars opposite Natal Mars also indicates that things are not likely to go his way tonite.
Please go to Courtney's website for more technical info, and I will respond to your questions.

[Ken_Gillman]

Shawn:
Do you have any thoughts on the approach John Frawley suggests in his "Sports Astrology"?
Regards
Ken Gillman

[Shawn_Carson]

Hi Ken,
Thanks for replying on this odd topic. I am somewhat familiar with the methods employed by John Frawley in forecasting winners. I first started using similar horary techniques after reading an article in Llewellyn's A to Z written a long time ago. The author, (Donald Bradley?) endeavors to predict the outcome of the annual Rose Bowl football game played, at that time, every New Year's Day, in Pasadena, CA. It was handy for him to use this game, as it was played in the same place, at the same time of day, every year. Therefore, he didn't have to erect a new horoscope wheel for each game, but only had to "plug in" the current planets. Obviously, this was way before computer generated horoscopes (or maybe even before computers). The author analyzes the game using horary methods such as the AC represents the home team and the DC represents the visitor. The relative strengths and weaknesses of the two teams are delineated using derivative houses, such as the second house represents the home team's odds and the eighth house the visitor's odds. The author makes a fairly compelling case for the legitimacy of his methods as he breaks down the results of the game and shows how he arrived at the correct conclusion.
As a new student to astrology at the time I dived in with both feet and began casting horoscopes for the beginning of lots of games of interest. I thought that I must be on to something because I initially was predicting more right than wrong by about 2 to 1. This streak continued for several weeks, and I earnestly applied all of the horary rules that I could get my hands on. Just when i had determined that I had successfully unlocked the secrets of forecasting winners, the whole thing came crashing down on me as I was now predicting more wrong than right by about 2 to 1. I saved all of the charts and tried to rectify the actual game results with the astrology, but I quickly found myself in a house of mirrors, where, in the end, I was unable to find any real consistency or reliability in any of the horary rules I was endeavoring to apply.
I don't mean to knock horary astrology, in general. I can appreciate the fact that in the age before easily generated computer horoscopes, astrologers had to devise a system that could accomodate their ends without casting multiple charts. There just weren't enough hours in the day to generate the information that is now easily obtained with today's technology.
At the risk of offending John Frawley or his fans, my opinion is that he is something of an old-fashioned charlatan in terms of promising unrealistic results with his methods. There may be some validity to his methods, just as there is surely some validity in the "magic" of horary techniques, although I. for one, have found little scientific or practical evidence to hang my hat on. Frawley positions himself as some sort of mystical adept, who has pierced the veil of forecasting winners, while, in my opinion, he is really more interested in selling books. I guess you could say I think he is full of hot air.
The "Real Time" methods that i mentioned in my original post here are not perfect either, but they are, from my experience, very real. Here's to hoping that an accomplished astrologer like yourself has a strong enough interest in this field that we could perform our own objective experiments. i would love to share this fascination with someone like you.