Thanks for the post. I am not an expert in ancient languages and as you point out we don’t have many in our field who are. The panel discussion “The Astrology Tradition in Retrospect” will be looking at the roots of Hellenistic astrology, which should be interesting. We can read but not post to this panel.
However, we can start any related threads on our own or even a thread to comment on their discussion. If you and other Vedic astrologers want to contact me to create a third Vedic forum, I am totally open to that. I am also trying to find some sources for Babylonian astrology, and am still waiting to hear about that. If the group of Vedic astrologers can’t overcome their differences and prejudices to have a courteous discussion, then that is a disappointment for us all. I have learned something from your discussion with Wilhelm and look forward to future discussions by the two of you and others.
In my experience, Vedic astrologers are very dedicated, sincere, and passionate about their work, and I look forward to seeing more of that dedication appearing here on ACT, which can be a wonderful place for the rest of us to learn.
My own view about looking into the past, and this is something that Robert Schmidt and I have discussed for a great many years now, is that whatever was true back then (ages ago) is still true today, because that is the definition of truth, something that last or endures. And truth is not only to be found by studying ancient astrological texts. Emerson’s essay on history comes to mind, where he wrote:
"All inquiry into antiquity is the desire to do away with this wild, savage, and preposterous There or Then, and introduce in its place, the Here and the Now. Belzoni (an archeologist) digs and measures in the mummy-pits and pyramids of Thebes until he can see the end of the difference between the monstrous work and himself. When he has satisfied himself, in general and in detail, that it was made by such a person as he, so armed and so motivated, and to ends to which he, himself, should also have worked, the problem is solved; his thought lives along the whole line of temples and sphinxes and catacombs, passes through them all with satisfaction, and they live again to the mind, or are NOW."
Just as we can search in ancient languages for how astrology works, whatever truth there is in that search is still true today and remains in the mind to be accessed by any of us with the will and patience to do so. We can go within our own mind and discover these same truths. In Tibetan Buddhism, there is the whole terton tradition of what is called ‘Mind Terma,’” in which sacred truths and teachings that are embedded in the mind itself, become available to us and are just waiting for the right moment and view to be discovered.
Looking in the mind is more the path I have taken, and I have been fortunate enough to find a number of rare and wonderful concepts right in the mind itself and bring them forth. For me this took the form of techniques like Local Space astrology, Helio Archetype Patterns, Heliocentric Planetary Nodes, Deep Space Astrology, and others. My most recent discovery, and please excuse my enthusiasm, is the concept of Phase Charts, and how to use full-phase aspects to create a special chart using the same aspects all astrologers use, but putting them together (like pieces in a jigsaw puzzle) to create an image of the natal chart that is almost three dimensional, like a hologram. I was and still am amazed by the Phase Chart’s ability to delineate. I feel certain that these very simple charts will become an important form of chart analysis in the near future. Some writing on this can be found in the “Aspects and Chart Patterns” forum.
So, please communicate your wishes and needs either here or elsewhere on the forum or to me personally at Michael@erlewine.net
. It is my wish to make the ACT dialogs a refuge for real discussion among astrologers.