Validation of the Sabian Symbols?

[David_Mastrogiovanni]

Greetings. I have copied this post from the one I submitted to the 'Esoteric Astrology' sub-forum here at this web-site.
I feel somebody should get the ball rolling here on this topic of the Sabians and I would like to give it a shot, so to speak.
The book I refer to is "A Template For The Time. The Astrological Birth Chart of Jesus." TGS Publishing, Frankston Texas. In my book I propose what I believe to be the correct birth chart for the man known as Jesus of Nazareth. It is derived from Sabian Symbol analysis as proposed by Dane Rudhyar in his book on the subject, "An Astrological Mandalla" most specifically in the chapter titled 'The Cross and the Star."
Regardless of whether or not I have produced the accurate chart for Jesus what I am presenting here is a valid observation...in that I found that the Sabians as interpreted by Rudhyar and the Kabbalistic astrological knowledge as presented by Rabbi Joel Dobin to be mutually validating.
Thank you, Dave Mastry aka David Mastrogiovanni aka Devananda.



[This concept is not to be confused with the "Thema Mundi"...it represents what I consider the overall 'Gestalt' of the psyche of all creation.
It deals extensively with the 'Sabian Symbols' as proposed by M.E. Jones and Elsie Wheeler and defined by Dane Rudhyar...and it also deals with the Kabbalah as interpreted by Rabbi Joel Dobin.
I am posting from a thread I started at the astrologyweekly forum pretty much verbatim.]


In Rabbi Joel Dobins' book, "Kabbalistic Astrology", he relates how the key to the Kabbalistic understanding of the Hebrew Holy Books is in utilizing different vowels in interpreting the various texts.
For those of you uninformed the Hebrews used only a consonantial writing form. For example: The same three letters that represent the planet M[a]rs could also mean the color red, war, anger etc.
The six letters that spell 'MGN DVD' [Magen David] could mean 'Star of David', 'Horoscope of David' or 'Shield of David'...depending upon which vowels are inserted into the text.
This is apparently is, if not the 'Key', one of the 'Keys to the Kabbalah'
On page 129 of His book the Rabbi translates from the Book of Habakkuk 3:2-4 to read: "...it shall become know by means of the years. God shall come from [the direction of] Capricorn-Aquarius. And the Holy One from [the direction of] Mount Paran [Sinai] and Selah. And the Moon, like the Sun, will be rays at His side. And therein will be the secret of His power."
An idea struck me sometime after I read the Rabbis' book and looked up the Sabian Symbols for the last degree of Capricorn and the first degree of Aquarius. The direction the Rabbi said that God shall come from.
The symbol for the 30th degree of Capricorn [by Rudhyars' book on the Sabian Symbols] is: "A Secret Meeting Of Men Responsible For Executive Decisions In World Affairs." Rudhyar further defines this to mean of an "Occult Hierarchy" or the reputed "White Lodge". Rudhyar used the Keywords of "EXECUTIVE POWER" for this degree of the Zodiac....he is in fact saying this degree of the Zodiac represents the "Godhead".
The first degree of Aquarius is [from Rudhyars' book] "An Old Adobe Mission In California." Rudhyars' Keywords for this degree is "THE CONCRETIZATION OF AN IDEAL"
It is apparent to me that this represents the 'Concept' and the 'Creation'.
In Rudhyars book "An Astrologically Mandalla. The Sabian Symbols" in the chapter titled "The Cross and the Star" he mentions how the Asc., Desc., I.C. and M.C., of any birth chart, are symbolically the WHO, WHERETO, HOW and WHY of ones existence...your 'Spiritual Blueprint' as I like to call it.
Rudhyar als points out how the result of the previous creation becomes the seed for the next.
If we set up a birth chart for all creation utilizing these two degrees as the source and the seed of the ascendent of the birth chart and construct an ideal 90* axis we thus have [as I have already demostraed] Capricorn 30* and Aquarius 01* as the WHO of creation Cancer 30* and Leo 01* as the Desc., the WHERE-TO of creation. Aries 30* and Taurus 01* as the I.C., the HOW of creation. Libra 30* and Scorpio 01* as the WHY of creation.
Interestingly the symbol for the 30th degree of Cancer is "A Daughter of the American Revolution"...defined by Rudhyars' keywords as "GLORIFICATION OF THE PAST". Sounds like a seed to me! ...& Leo 01*, what this seed is to become, is about the "...irruption of bio-psychic energies into the ego-controlled field of consciousness"....the realization of the ''Atman'' or ''Spiritual Self''..."energy erupting into consciousness", by Rudhyars' definition.
So far this makes perfect sense to me.
As to the I.C. or HOW we are to achieve this is represented by Aries 30* & Taurus 01*. These two symbols represent [Aries 30*]"The realization of natural bounderies" and Rudhyars' keyword 'FOCALIZATION' ...& [Taurus 01*] ''The pure, uncontaminated and spontaneous manifestation of ones' own nature", Rudhyars' Keywords "ITS' OWN NATURE".
As to the M.C., the WHY of existence, we have Libra 30* and Scorpio 01*.
The Symbols for which, by Rudhyars interpretation, are representative of [Libra 30*] "The fullfilment of mans' power of understanfding at whatever level of existence the person operates", His Keywords "A HOLISTIC APPROACH TO KNOWLEDGE". ...& [Scorpio 01*] the symbol for which by Rudhyars' definition is about "The fundamental human eagerness to expand ones' social horizon and to experience the results of collective achievements and new ways of life." & His Keywords are; "A WIDENING OF EXPERIENCE".

...of all the Sabian Symbols to be found in the Zodiac...I cannot imagine any that are more appropriate for this proposed birth chart of creation.
Look them all up yourselves and try any other combination...this analogy gave me the belief that the Rabbis work and the Sabian Symbols are mutually validating [especially as defined by Dane Rudhyar!]
The Rabbi informed, me a few years ago, He had never once looked at the Sabian Symbols in his life and only barely recalled any reference to their existence...!

...as I had to explain to a few folks at the other forums. [as I see it] "The Zodiac is the birth chart of creation...I'm just pointing out where the chart axis is."