YODS. Is it the correct interpretation?

[David_Mastrogiovanni]

I don't know if this thread belongs here or even here at ACT Astrology at all. I'll let the mod. decide.
I'm posting here a copy of a thread i started at astrologyweekly.com and submit for your collective, esteemed analysis, and consideration.
Thank you all, D.M.

the copy of the post:


Can anyone recall any post in the last week where-in some mathematician claimed they were trying to solve a puzzle about co-joining two 3 dimensional pentagons? If so could you point out the thread and post?...thanks ptv

Now..about the subject for which I titled this thread.
I spent about 16 hours yesterday chained to this computer and researching and reading one thing after another.
It all started because of the thread I posted titled 'The Only Ism...'
I had to be sure I was using the term 'Covenant' correctly as applied to all Judeo-Christian religions...but that is neither here not there as to this thread.
I learned a lot yesterday in those 16 hours and it was because of the, aforementioned, 'pentagon' question.
I kept coming back to the 'Bahir', the 'Sephirot' , the 'Ohr', the Tzimtzum, and an very interesting new Hebrew word and term, Chalal and Chalal panui ...[which kicked on the the old light bulb in the brain box...as it looks suspiciously a lot like 'Chalice' {Holy Grail?}]
Anyways...as to the Sephirot, while researching, I came upon a phrase that wasn't new to me but one I had never understood and suddenly I saw it in a 'different light'.[... if you'll pardon the metaphor/pun...]
What I read is this. [from Wikipedia] " The tradition of enumerating 10 is stated in the Sefer Yetzirah, 'Ten sephirot of nothingness, ten and not nine, ten and not eleven'
As I had been recollecting somethings about numbers and how it is said somewhere in the Kabbalah that the numbers 1 through 10 were the 'prime force' or something to that effect of the structure of creation...cause of it...something like that. I then had to look up the 10 letters of the Hebrew Alphabet that transliterate to the numbers one 1 thorough 10.
...and the letter for number 10 is "YOD". ...hmmmm, yes.......and I mean..._ _ _ ___\\\\\ ! ////___ _ _ _

..so, I had been considering 'Pentagrams' and Quintiles for sometime.
As the eve I was invited to speak about my 'discovery', of the natal chart that I propose is that of Jesus/Yeshua, on the Rick Barber radio show on AM station KOO out of Denver on Dec 22, 2005. Pluto was at 24* Sagittarius 32'...and my Part of Intelligence/Skill [Asc + Mars - Mercury] is 24* Sagittarius 18'...and considered the allowable variance for slight adjustments in longitude/latitude, time etc. my Part of Intell. could very well be exactly where Pluto was that evening...anyways it's razor thin close anyways to a 'perfect' conj.
Interestingly Uranus was within a degree to a near perfect Quintile to Pluto and my Part of Intell./Skill at the same time. Uranus was at 07* Pisces 24' [and was within a half degree of conj. to the natal Venus I have for my proposed birth chart of Yeshua]. There is also a semi-quintile right smack dab between the two planets by Chiron at 01* Aquarius 10'...[Do you see where I'm going with this...hmmm?]

yeah, ....A matrix here-to -fore RARELY CONSIDERED... a "Grand-Semi-Quintile"


[...okay..all together now...HMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmm? ...thank you...]

...so, I'm thinking; as so much of astrological knowledge has been fudged [and I believe a good deal of it deliberately so, by my old Mr. Scratch himself...aka "Prince of Lies"]...that the REAL YOD is that of 3 planets or the Luminaries [ and also which may include personal points of the Nodes, or any chart axis point...as I am that kind of Astrologer] ..that are in this Semi-Quintile arrangement with a 4th aspect directly across the middle of the 3 degrees in consideration...just as it is considered now to be by Sextiles.

...the Hebrews and the Kabbalah...I'm getting more and more a believer in them and theirs everyday...and next I 'd like to discuss what I also re- read [ in Rabbi Dobin's book...again but now it registered...really registered... as to eclipses, they are particularly oriented as to what the land of Israel is about to undergo...it is *STATED IN THE HOLY SCRIPTURE!

Oh..btw...the North Node for the event was in the 10th degree of Aries ...which is by Sabian symbology the meaning of the 'Heavens' to world society...

[from Rudhyar's book on the Sabians]

10* Aries:" A TEACHER GIVES NEW SYMBOLIC FORMS TO TRADITIONAL IMAGES.

KEYNOTE: Revision of attitude at the beginning of a new cycle of experience.

This phase is the fifth of the second five-fold sequence, and in it we find expressed the capacity to restate the problem inherent in the first phase, i.e. the problem of focusing one's energies upon emotional drives and cultural values which exclude far more than they include. The subsequent stages of development taken together have added considerably to this attitude; as a result, there arises in the consciousness a desire to reformulate at a new level much that had been taken for granted because it indeed originally had been an evolutionary necessity. The very concrete emotion-arousing images of the past can now be reinterpreted as "symbols" with a wider scope of meaning.

At this fifth stage a new dimension of consciousness is discovered, revealing higher possibilities of experience and mental development. This is a phase of ABSTRACTION and of emotional allegiance."

ps*This is from Rabbi Dobin's book, "Kabbalistic Astrology. The Sacred Tradition Of The Hebrew Sages"


[the event chart for my radio appearance] ...stay tuned.

[David_Mastrogiovanni]

This is a copy of the follow up post I wrote in reply to a member posting about their 'Yod' [by the presently accepted definition] which was itself a response to my initial post.
This member has a 'Yod' with 22* Capricorn & 22* Pisces at the base and 22* Leo at the apex.


...my reply...

[Quote member]I believe Yod is the finger of God. He who knows the count of every hair on our head has a purpose for us and he has made it easy by pointing to where our special purpose can be carried out and realized. "Oh....if you only listened to me...."
My Yod consists of Saturn 22* Cap, Venus 22* Pisces and Uranus 22* Leo.
Uranus apex. Ruler of 7th and 8th in natal chart.
My Yod means, to me, knowing what's best for those I care about and shaking them out of complacent stupors when I sense trouble. I am quite gifted doing this. Saved many a butt from bad situations.[Unquote]

I will agree that the sextile configuration that is presently called a Yod is powerful configuration that does bestow talent or proclivity for proceeding on a path of something evolutionary. That's because it is based within a 'Grand-Semi-Sextile'...two symmetrically interlocked 'Stars of David/Solomon' [Magen David] ...that is, two six pointed star matrices. The 12 point star is known as the "Path of Discipleship' [writings of Dorthy Leon...is one source I can immediately quote for that ...she was the proof reader and content adviser that TGS publishing provided me for my book...there are other refs. I can't recall at the moment.] Although my own work with musical tonality as applied to the Zodiac indicates that the aforementioned 'Path' only applies to to a 12 point 'star' configured to a 14 point matrix. [I have a thread on that at ACTastrology.com http://actastrology.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=177 ] Regardless of which configuration that 'Path' actually applies to the Grand Semi Sextile is one of considerable power and noblese. Mark, I understand, has a particular affinity for semi-sextiles and you might wish to confer with him on this matter as he has been engaged in a lot of recent study and thought on that.
Know that I'm Rudhyarian in belief and technique [pretty much so anyways] and the 'Traditional Astrologers' view my kind with disdain mostly. They practice, what we 'Modernists' call 'Predictive-Fatalistic Astrology'. Based on a belief that every aspect is either beneficent or malefic and that these aspects are unalterable and determine your destiny.
We on the other hand see these as potentialities and that you are given opportunities through out your life to control your destiny.
Hers's an excerpt from some writing of Robert Zoller on Marc Edmond Jones and Dane Rudhyar that will explain it as good as, if not better, than I can.

"Jones formulated and he was actually responsible for laying the foundation for psychological astrology, and for creating non-predictive/non-fatalistic astrology, an astrology which no longer recognises the medieval distinctions between benefic and malefic indications, and in which astrology the 'possibilities' or 'potentialities' an individual may develop or confront in his or her 'evolution'.

Jones's revision of astrology opened the door to the 'humanistic' psychological astrology of Dane Rudhyar, first set out in 1936 in his The Astrology of Personality, and may be viewed as the foundation stone of New Age astrology. Without the Idealist foundation to astrology provided by Jones, it is unlikely that Rudhyar would ever have succeeded in grafting psychology and his own version of metaphysics on to existing astrology."

Rudhyar's book, "Astrological Aspects. A process Oriented Approach", which he co authored with his wife, Layla Rael, late in his life is a great book to understand what these various matrices I speak of are all about.
Your 'Yod' is actually a triangle. Rudhyar and Rael talk of the many different kinds of these triangles and also quad-angles [Grand Cross, rectangle, parallelograms, trapezoids...not to forget the Harmonic or Mystic rectangle of which so many folks have more recently become aware of and are interested in... etc.] and their potentialities.

What I'm getting at in this thread is that I believe the term 'YOD' itself had become a victim of lost knowledge, ignorance and or mis-use and I now have reason and possibly some evidence that suggests that the term 'YOD" was for that 'triangle' that has a base of two 72* angles and an apex angle of 36* as what you have is one of two 75* angles and an apex angle of 30*.
This is because the letter of the Hebrew Alphabet know as the 'Yod' by transliteration is the number 10 and a division of 360* by 10 is 36* or a Semi-Quintile.
As to why it's called 'The Finger of God'. In your triangle the base aspect is a Sextile 60*. But the triangle it forms is of the integers 75, 75 and 30. In the one I'm suggesting the base aspect is a Quintile 72*. The triangle it forms is of the integers 72, 72, and 36.
Some of you, no doubt already see what I'm getting at. This 72 [72 names of God] repeats itself from the base aspect to the interior angles of the triangle. The sextile Yod does no such thing.
Also 9 is considered the number of God by many for occult reasons and 7+2 = 9 and 3 + 6 = 9.
The sextile Yod will only produce a 9 by 75+75+30 =180 and 1+8 = 9 but all triangles do that...and thus so does the Quintile Yod.
I'd say the 72 integer and it's association with God by the 72 names [and the 72 angels of the Quinaries...and that there are 72 possible Pentagrams in 360 degrees] is the 'capper'.
As a great deal of techniques and Astrological knowledge and lore come from the Hebrew Kabbalah it stands to reason.

[David_Mastrogiovanni]

[from the Astrologyweekly.com forum that followed the previous post]


[In this following demonstration I am using degree symbol enumeration. For those of you that wish not to think in or utilize that manner, just subtract one degree from each that is quoted for the great majority of you that will be utilizing the 'Traditional' aka standard ways of astrology, and for understanding the 'Evolutionary' process that is being demonstrated add one degree. Thank you.]

So, it has come to my attention that in any arrangement of a Grand Semi-Quintile Matrix you will always end up with two signs intercepted. That is, there will be two signs within which no matrix point falls within.
If one is to begin with the 30* of Virgo and proceed in the 'Evolutionary' direction of the 'Esoteric School of Astrology' [clockwise] belief you will have skipped the signs of Libra and Aries.
Proceeding from Aries 01* and going in the standard 'Traditional' direction or 'Involutionary' to the 'Esoteric School' [counter-clockwise] you will end up skipping the signs of Pisces and Virgo.
It would not be until you began at Virgo 24* the 'Evolutionary' direction or Aries 07* the 'Involutionary' [Traditional] direction would those intercepted signs change. then again at Virgo 18* and Aries 13 *, Virgo 12* and Aries 19* and Virgo 06* and Aries 25*.The intercepted signs would rotate in inverse direction to the technique being used every 6th degree.

An example:
30* Virgo
24* Leo
18* Cancer
12* Gemini
06* Taurus
30* Pisces
24* Aquarius
18* Capricorn
12* Sagittarius
06* Scorpio.
Notice that the signs Libra and Aries end up intercepted...that is there are no matrix points in those two signs.

An example of the other:
01* Aries
07* Taurus
13* Gemini
19* Cancer
25* Leo
01* Libra
07* Scorpio
13* Sagittarius
19* Capricorn
25* Aquarius
Now the signs Virgo and Pisces end up intercepted with no matrix points within those signs.
Once you start at Virgo 24* in a 'Evolutionary' [clockwise] direction those intercepted signs change to Taurus and Scorpio.
Once you start at Aries 07* in a 'Involutionary' [counter-clockwise/standard'Traditional' direction] the intercepted signs change to Leo and Aquarius.

[David_Mastrogiovanni]

[again, from AW]


I didn't want to turn this into a thread about me...but as to the event chart of 2005 I brought up. It only came to my attention tonight as I was using that chart face to visualize some theories and I realized in addition to the trans-Uranus/trans-Pluto Quintile with trans-Pluto conjunct my Part of Intelligence/Skill were a number aspects I never bothered to look for that now caught my attention.
These other aspects were trans-Saturn/natal Saturn Quintile, and trans-Saturn/natal Jupiter-Quintile. Trans-Neptune/natal Mercury Quintile. Trans-Mercury/natal-Moon Quintile, trans-Venus/natal Uranus bi-Quintile. And lastly the event chart vertex was conj natal Jupiter.
Gee-whiz!?!





my natal chart

[David_Mastrogiovanni]

[also from AW]



Okay, this is major...and I didn't plan this or 'set this whole thing up' as I'm sure some of you will see it that way.

It's been a long day, so i'm just going to paste the two e-mails I just sent my brother and Biblical astrologer, Don Cerow, as they have all the info.


I noticed what Ursula Lewis had written about the 'Tredecile' 108* then but as the arrangement I was tinkering with is a kite with two opposite degrees connected by Bi-Quintiles and Semi-Quintiles I had no immediate use for it but thought she had mentioned it being a 'Major' aspect. I was in error it was Se-squares and Semi Squares that Ursula had labeled as such...but I did remember it was something other Astrologers haven't even mentioned as being other than 'Minor' aspects.

But this got me thinking...
A question arose in my skull that possibly another arrangement would have even more potential...and that would be one of two opposite degrees connected by 'Tredeciles and Quintiles. Now this matrix does have full Quints involved.

I won't burden myself with writing the differences as to effects as according to Ursula...you can figure the details out for yourself...but I believe the matrix might be more of a 'Mystic Rectangle' than that of the Sextile -Trine arrangements.

Now, Here's the really neat part..why I'm sending you this e-mail right off.
I looked at my Yeshua chart on the wall here next to the desk and gave it a cursory look over for any of these Quintile-Tredecile kites and lo & behold..what I found is that Mars and Uranus were in one of the Bi-Quintile~Semi-Quintile Kites to the Nodes...North Node the focal...That's a really BIG WOW...

Mars and Uranus to the Nodes....Mars 9th house Gemini...Uranus 7th house Aries ...South Node 8th house Taurus...North Node 2nd house Scorpio.

This needs some serious analyzing and with particular attention to the Sabian Symbols.


I forgot to mention...the South Node is conj the Part of Treachery [and I never caught on to that before...never connected in my mind] Part of Treachery is Asc + Neptune -Sun and Yeshua's comes out 13* Taurus 16*.

The Keywords for the 14th of Taurus by Rudhyar is 'Live and Let Live"...which wasn't so 'unlucky' for Judas...and Uranus and Mars were helping link these opposites in harmony
The 14th of Scorpio... [Rudhyar] "TELEPHONE LINEMEN AT WORK INSTALLING NEW CONNECTIONS.
KEYNOTE: The need to establish new channels of communication."
[Edgar Cayce's part of Fortune...btw]


I'm including the birth chart in case you haven't got one handy.
Oh, btw...someone reminded me on the last Friday 13th that Yeshua was crucified on a Friday the 13th....interesting in that I have the Easter Sunday in 35 AD on Sunday the 15th...Ah Ha...I'd heard about the crucifixion thing years and years ago and I'd forgotten it...the only association I had with Yeshua and the number, 13, was Judas as some called him the 13th disciple.


WOW...another one...A Uranus~Jupiter~Moon/Asc./Pluto!Mars rectangle...WTF! ....Whoa!...Check this out! Man...it's been staring me in the face for...How Long?
...it's a rectangle consisting of a Uranus~ Jupiter Trine, Jupiter~Moon/Asc./Pluto Quintile, Moon/Asc./Pluto~Mars Tredecile, Mars~Uranus Quintile....WOW....

[I know it's not the most symmetrical of polygons esp a Trine and a Quintile making up a hemisphere...but it is all in orb of aspect...although the Moon ~ Uranus opposition is around 8 1/2 degrees.

[David_Mastrogiovanni]

[this was posted on Jan 27, 2011 at AW]


Well, this has come as a surprise...[but, then again, I don't know if anything truly surprises me anymore...]
The chart at 00:00 Greenwhich time today [ 4:00 PM here locally]
The North Node at 12* Sagittarius 42' is Tredecile to Uranus which is given at 01* Aries 35" [the ideal to the Node would be 00* Aries 42' ..thus it is within 48" of a degree] and of course that means that the South Node a 12* Gemini 42* is Quintile to Uranus.
The point missing..unfilled...is the first degree of Libra...My favorite degree...!

[David_Mastrogiovanni]

[also from AW]


I've realized that it must certainly seem like I'm strecthing fact to fit a theory and that isn't good. I should have stuck to a paradigm of particular rectangle here and that would be a rectangle consisting of two Tredeciles and two Pentagrams...the trine is off by 12 degrees from a Tredcile...and in actuality Jupiter is 115* from Uranus. So the point should be at 20* + Sagittarius...well Ceres dose show u at 23* + Sag. and that is about 2* too wide as only a 1* orb is allegedly allowed..but seeing as how estimations on the orbits of asteroids may be off a degree or two going back two thousand years...?

...and when you draw out a rectangle consisting of two 108 degree angles and two 72 degree angles..you get a perfect 'Diamond' shape..."

This diamond symbol is also found in alchemical philosophies. Metaphysically speaking, this foundational image tells of creativity that is expressed by the culmination of the four elements: Four sides indicating earth, fire, air, and water.
[Of note is that this particular rectangular shape is seen in the Native American symbolic language as a designation for wind.]
In the Alchemy, the skillful employment of all four of these elements leads the practitioner to infinite potential and Divine creativity. The design itself speaks that creation takes place through the path of least resistance. In other words, it is by acquiescing to that by which we obtain our true creative purpose.

This diamond symbol is from northern Europe and are identified as the runic system of “Futhark." This rune is called the Dagaz and is the Symbol of the Dawn.
It is considered to be the rune of za break through in understanding and knowledge and represents attainment of the meaning of life – enlightenment, satisfaction, “ultimate truth” – that which the seeker holds most valuable is obtained. Further, the Dagaz embodies the concepts of: Awakening, insight, clarification, awareness, epiphany, new beginnings, and connections to the mystical in all things.
It is symbolic of time and space as complimentary elements. This rune speaks of the partnership between night and day with the center-point represented as the dawn. Metaphorically, the dawn marks an awakening to all new understandings.
Some ancient European tribes deemed this symbol to represent the literal image of the birth canal or vagina. So, literally, this symbol means creation of life.

[Avia Venefica states: ...also as a "...symbol to the Native Americans it signifies the butterfly. Indian nations identify the butterfly with the concept of “immortality.” Immortality here is seen in the migratory patterns of the butterfly where they flock by the millions after traveling thousands of miles – coming home."]

[David_Mastrogiovanni]

[This is also from AW...I had mistakenly posted a diagram of a rectangle [a Rhombus] with angles of 120*, 60*, 120* and 60*}


I know realize that the diagram I found that I'm using is that of a 120*>60*>120*>60* configured rectangle and not that of 108*>72*>108*>72*
Having been occupied with guests in my home all day I wasn't proof reading or double checking any math or figures.
MY BAD
The image I posted though, does represent the rectangle that has been 'dubbed' a 'Mystic' or 'Harmonic' rectangle.That rectangle of Rhombus shape that consists of two 60* and two 120* angles...four of the points of the 'Magen David', with a pair of opposites missing.[It was Rudhyar that coined the term. From his and Leyla Rael's book, "Astrological Aspects. A Process Oriented Approach", footnote page 178]
"I believe I was the first astrologer to study and interpret this configuration. It is mentioned in my book< "The Astrology of Personality [1934-35]. at first I called it a "mystic rectangle" because its shape seems to heave been used in initiation chambers and temples of older civilizations, altars in these structures had also been constructed on its proportions. Later on I realized the inadequacy of the term, that it was confusing, especially the way it has been used and abused of late. I then began to call it a "harmonic rectangle"

Well it is trines and sextiles so it does represent "the Visionary" and "organizational and management savy"...just not as on quite a 'grand scale' as the six pointed star..which happens to also be a "Grand-Sextile"

btw...Albert Schweitzer's natal chart has a 'Trine Kite'
[Saturn {at the crown} , the Moon and Venus on the cross arm points, and Uranus in the tail position].
Krishnamurti has the Semi-Quintile-~-Bi-Quintile rectangle configuration..although it is a very rough example in that the angles are [roughly] 142* 30', 37* 30', 139* 30' and 40* 30'. The astral objects involved in His rectangle were the Sun opp Uranus and Venus opp the Moon'...btw according to Rudhyar's chart on him which is included in the aforementioned book. Krishnamurti natal chart horizon was at Aquarius/Leo 19* 54'..and the Nodes at His birth wear 19* 51' Aquarius/Leo..North Node in Aquarius, [...like me!]

I plan on being busy hunting down examples of these two matrices in natal charts that are known to be genuinely those of people of renown. See what kind of influence can be determined to have evolved out of it.

...well, I propose that one or the other of these two rhombuses be recognized as and so named the 'Dagaz'...

[David_Mastrogiovanni]

Man...I hate to have to admit I might be slipping...but, I'm going to have to tonight.
It was a good thing I was surfing the boards here..and thinking and then realized these polygons don't exist for astrology ...all you can come up with with these angles in 2 + 2 configuration is a rectangle with points at 72* ~ 108* ~ 72* 108* or a kite configuration with points, 108* ~ 72* ~ 72* ~ 108*

...and the same goes for rectangle of 36* ~ 144* ~ 144* ~ 36* & a kite configuration of 144* ~ 36* ~ 36* ~ 144*
The diamond shape doesn't exist...except as a perfect square ....

...only perfect polygons...in a sense...something to ponder..for sure.

[David_Mastrogiovanni]

it also occured to me to put it this way...

a semi sextile/sextile 'YOD" is based on a 'Grand Semi-Sextile'..that is two perfectly symmetrical s' 6 pointed stars ..i.e. 'Stars of David' are inter laced together..a matrix point every 30*

the other matrix, the Quintile YOD , is two 'Pentagrams done in the same 'manner as the above.

It is called 'The Finger of God' ...how many fingers do you have?

Right... There's no way that 12 fingers are on anyones hands [God not included] so
....
it's got to be that of the Quintiles... Fives!