Prediction Hierarchy

[Patti Frabotta]

Hello Everyone,
I am a long-time subscriber to Project Hindsight, and a huge fan of their work. I have a question for Mr. Schmidt,
or Ms. Demetra George, about the Hierarchy of Prediction in Hellenistic Astrology.
I would guess something like:
Trigon Lords
Zodiacal Releasing
Circumambulations
Annual Profections
Solar Returns
Monthly Profections
Transits
Daily Profections
And we also have the Balbillus method, Decennials, Quarters, 3rd 7th 40th days of the Moon, Moon 9 Years, etc. You see my problem.
We did have a discussion on Deborah Houlding's Skyscript Forum (a wonderful medium, thank you Deborah!) and I received a few very
thoughtful, informative responses. One of them coincided with my (nebulous) ideas that not all systems work for all natives; and then
of course, some of these are topic-dependent.
Can you please shed some light on a general hierarchy of all of these methods? Mr. Schmidt, do you have any CDs with all of these
methods covered? When I moved back to PA from NH I either misplaced or stored a lot of your materials... and sad to say, I've lost
everything I had in storage.
Thank you in advance, and thank you again, Mr. Erlewine, for accepting me as a member of this board.

Patti Frabotta

[Dimityr Kojuharov]

Hello, Patti Frabotta!

Some time ago, Mr.Schmidt was posted announcement on his upcoming course on Hellenistic astrology.Here is the content of the module relating to Hellenistic Predictive System.I think this info will help you to find the answer of your question.


INTRODUCTION :

Overview of the System of Hermes as It Survives in the Sources
The Three Grand Approaches to Chart Reading (the "Warp" of the System)
The Three Principal Subsystems (the "Woof" of the System)

PREDOMINATION:

According to Most Sovereign Place
According to Natural Hierarchy of Significators
According to Dignification

LORD OF NATIVITY:

Determination of Planet in Most Sovereign Place, having Most Rulerships over the Universal Significators, being Most Dignified in its Own Place
Planets Cooperating with the Lord by Co-Presence
The Events Ruled by the Lord and its Cooperating Planets
Timing of the Events by Ascensional Times or Planetary Periods
Lords by Succession

LORD OF A SPECIAL TOPIC:

"Possibility of Event" Assessed by Preponderance of Benefics or Malefics in Pertinent Place(s)
"Quality of Event" Assessed by Determination of Lord of Topic, the Planet in the Pertinent Place(s) that is Most Dignified

DISPOSITORS SUPPORTING THE NATIVITY:

"Possibility of Event" Assessed by Study of Significator
The Triplicity Lords of the Sect-Light
The Domicile Lord of the Ascendant
The Domicile Lord of the Lots of Fortune and Spirit
The Detailed Interpretation of these Dispositors and "Quality of Event" in terms of Configurations with Sun, Lunar Applications & Separations, Configurations & Co-Presences with other planets, their Domicile & Bound Rulers, and their Topical Places
Timing by Ascensional Times and/or Planetary Periods
The Relationship of these Dispositors to the Lord of the Nativity

DISPOSITOR OF THE VITAL TIMES:

Bound Ruler of the Predominating Universal Significator
Detailed Predomination Rules
Defaults
Primary Direction of the Predominator
Interpretation
Relationship to Lord of Nativity

DISPOSITORS SUPPORTING SPECIAL TOPICS:

The Triplicity & Domicile Lords of Paradigmatic Planetary Significator, of Relevant Lots, and of Paradigmatic Topical Place
Delineation of topic by Configurations with Sun, Lunar Applications & Separations, Configurations & Co-Presences with other planets, their Domicile & Bound Rulers, and their Topical Places
Timing by Ascensional Times and/or Planetary Periods
The Relationship of these Dispositors to the Lord of the Topic

ASSOCIATED TIME-LORD PROCEDURES:

Decennials
Established by Sequence of Planets from the Predominating Universal Significator
Length of Time-Lordship from Planetary Periods in Months
Detailed Interpretation of these Time-Lords
Quarters
Established by Sequence of Planets from Prenatal Lunation
Length of Time-Lordship by Quarters of the Planetary Periods
Interpretation of these Time-Lords
Circumambulations from Predominator
Through Bounds, with Successive Bound Rulers as Time-Lords
Planet Encountered Bodily or by Ray as CooperatingTime-Lord
Detailed Interpretation
Circumambulations from All Planets
Converting Ecliptic Intervals to Times Proportionate to Planetary Periods
Yielding Information Specific to Significations of Released Planet
Solar Returns
Yielding More Detailed Information within Context of Circumambulations from Predominator
Determination of Planetary Positions in Solar Return
Determination of Ascendant
Role of Transits
Rulers of the Year, Month, Day
As Established by Profections from Predominator, Activating Planets in these Signs
As Established by Profections from Ascendant, Taking Lord of the Sign of Profection
The "Busy" Sign Established by Synodic Lunar Cycle
Interpretation within Context of Solar Return
Annual Profections from Planets, Four Lots & Angles
Establishment of Topically Specific Time-Lords for the Issues Associated with each Significator
Zodiacal Releasing from Lots of Fortune & Spirit
Studying Issues Pertaining to the Body from Fortune
Issues Pertaining to Career & Action from Spirit

SOLUNAR CONSIDERATIONS:

The 1st, 7th & 40th Days of the Moon, their Universal & Topically Specific Import
The Prenatal Lunation as Universal and Topically Specific Significator
Topical Interpretation of Lunar Phases & Cooperating Planet
Spear-Bearers to the Lights
Topical Interpretation of Lunar Latitude, Speed, and Waxing/Waning
General & Topical Interpretation of Lunar Nodes
The Nine-Year Cycle of Zoroaster
Time-Lords Established by the Degree Ruler of Moon

THE ORIGINAL EGYPTIAN DECANIC SYSTEM:

The Rising Decan & the Biographical Profile of the Native
Bright Fixed Stars making a Phasis at the Nativity or Co-Rising with the Moon
Planets & other Significators in Full or Empty Degrees
Decanic Houses
Planets in Decans of other Planets ~ Constellations Co-Rising with the Decans
The Planets Going Around & Executing (Planetary Days & Hours)

EPILOGUE:

The Systematic Integration of the Various Universal Techniques, Topically Specific Methods, and Time-Lord Procedures of the System
Rules of Synthesis of the Various Subsystems

[Patti Frabotta]

Dimityr Kojuharov,

Thank you for this info. I moved back to Pennsylvania from New England in 2001, and in
that move I lost or misplaced many things. Then, a couple of years ago, my computer
crashed, and I could only recover a fraction of the files. So I probably had this list somewhere
but lost it.....

My next project is to go through this list and refresh my memory on some of these
procedures. As mentioned, Ms. George and Mr. Schmidt both discuss some of them on
the 2006 Conclave CDs, as well as on Mr. Schmidt's Zodiacal Releasing CDs.

Again, thank you for this post. It is greatly appreciated.

Patti