Pluto Retrograde 2011-12...prelude to...?

[David_Mastrogiovanni]

Greetings. I just made this discovery this morning and haven't had time to thoroughly analyze my thoughts or compose this treatise properly, but as it is, of what I think such a profound nature, I felt it necessary to share immediately.
I am a bit reluctant to post this as you'll discover from my analysis of the data via the technique I've been employing utilizing Sabians as applied to Planets in the Retrograde process and how they correspond to the Nodes. [which, as I've mentioned, is an inherently Rudhyarian technique].

...anyways, the following is an e-mail i sent to a fellow Sabian Astrologer in a attempt to get their opinion...but as this Forum is comprised of mostly professional and or respected Astrologers I don't mind putting out here for all to see...as you all know, and understand that, I'm 'experimenting' with a technique of prediction.

...if you're not familiar with the technique I'm employing I urge you to read my other threads on Retrograde planets to familiarize yourself with it.

...anyways...here's what I wrote:

Hey ya'all. I was discussing the 2012 issue with my brother , Daniel, by e-mail and reading his analysis that it's, pretty much, all a bunch of hype.
...well, I've been following the 'Remote Viewer' thing for awhile...and Clarisse says 'Somethings going on"...so I thought I'd finally get around to looking at Pluto retrograde in 2011 via the technique I've been employing ...and...It scares me!

Pluto goes retro at 07* Cap 30' on April 9th in 2011 and the Nth. Node will be in the 28th or 27th degree of Sag. [The legendary 'Galactic Center'] [ this part of the equation could be referred to as The "Impasse..that is, where Pluto stalls and goes retro.]
The symbols involved for the 8th of Cap. which is about finding "enjoyment "coupled with the symbol for the 28th of Sag. 'A Old Bridge Over A Beautiful Stream..." i.e. "The Beautiful Necessity" which also happens to be the Symbol for the Part of Fatality for Jesus by my [proposed birth] chart [He became part of the "Bridge" to the Godhead...thus I see this Symbol, in some ways, representing the "Holy Spirit"] leads me to surmise the cosmos is telling us where to find that "Happiness"...that is ..."In the Holy Spirit".
Now Pluto goes retro back to apprx 04* Cap. 53'...and as you know too well... that is not good...that is the symbol for "On the War Path..." the Nth. Node being in the 19th degree of Sag. at that time and indicating that the reason that Pluto is picking up this particular energy [for war?] to achieve the 'impasse' presented by the first set of symbols...and you know that the symbol the 19th degree of Sag. is about finding safe refuge for the young...away from 'civilization' ...Keyword: "Survival"...

...the Nth Node is at the 13th degree of Sag at Plutos' 'Final Return' to 07* Cap. 30 in Jan. 2012' and the symbol is about past karmic actions coming to light and the Keyword is "Retribution" [possibly indicating the cause for the call to spill blood?]...like I said this is some scarry stuff!
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...This will certainly be worth some serious observation when this event occurs...and, what I believe, to be a 'Call' for us to pray for peace now and in the many months ahead and to keep a close watch on our politicians ...and keep em' on a leash if the need be...[and it 'BE'!]
ps...I revised this entire post...for those of you that were the first 5 readers...it's still the same info though...just formatted a little different!...David M.

[David_Mastrogiovanni]

...from a post of mine at astrologyweekly.com...

...now it's got me... I've been thinking about and humming [all morning long] that Donald Fagen song.

"...We've got provisions and lots of beer.
The keyword is SURVIVAL on the 'New Frontier'..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBruAooXPNU

[David_Mastrogiovanni]

...another re-post from astrologyweekly...

I should also note, that at the time of Plutos' initial retrograde movement in Capricorn, April, 2011, that Mars will be Square at around 06* Aries 05 and that the Moon will be in these same degrees in the sign of Cancer that day...a Moon opp Pluto square Mars, 'T-Square' that day and that Mercury will be in the 27-28th degree of Sag. at the time of Plutos' final return in 2012...that "Galatic Center" thing again...and where the Nth. Node was at during the 'Impasse'....
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[David_Mastrogiovanni]

...and last re-post...[although this is a little off topic...forgive me if anyone thinks I'm being opportunistic here...{I just trying to supply all the pertinent data here...and it does seem a bit pertinent} David M.

...here's more fuel for thought. Jupiter will be in the 19th degree of Pisces when Pluto beins its' retro thing this year..i.e 2010 when Pluto will be in the 6th degree of Cap.
The 19th degree of Pisces is "The Master Instucts His Disciple[s]"...i.e. the Part of Fortune I derived from my proposed birth chart for Jesus/Yeshua ...and a degree of the Zodiac that has been 'in play' a lot these past few years...[it's also the degree and sign for my Part of Inheritance]...hmmmmm

[David_Mastrogiovanni]

...Wow, it came to my attention today that Pluto will conj. the North Node later this year in Nov. in the 5th degree of Capricorn...the very same degree I've mentioned above as per Plutos' retro-destination in late 2011.
The odds of the occurence are, I believe, 360 to the third exponet...but the rare probability combined with the prognostications already in circulation for 2012 is definately calling for some attention and calculated observation.

[David_Mastrogiovanni]

Well, the above occurence of Pluto conj. the N. Node and the subsquent retro symbology has led me to think that quite probably the overall tenor/Gestalt of the symbology as per how planets in retro symbology analysis should be regarded in the overall light of the previous conj. of said planet in question to the N. Node.This is not unlike the Rudhyarian process of analysis concerning the phases of the Moon as to the Sun specifically the Full Moon and New Moon----evolutionary/involutionary view of a identified cyclic process.
Thus these most recent retro-symbologies of Pluto should be seen in regard to Plutos' last conj with the N. Node in Nov. 1994 in the 29th degree of Scorpio. [from Rudhyars' book] "AN INDIAN SQUAW PLEADING TO THE CHIEF FOR THE LIVES OF HER CHILDREN. Keynote: Love as a principal of redemption."

To me, this represents "The Divine Mother...The Durga" looking for new refuge....guarantees...for the safety of the youngest generation.[r.e. the symbol for the 19th deg. of Sag....'finding safe refuge for the young']
This goes hand in hand with what I saw in the retro effect of Pluto in 2011-12...i.e. 'Concern for the welfare of the young'...

...I'm realizing, more and more, a grave concern here and possibly a warning... I fault not the stars for the concern, but rather, the present state of society and how energies thus analyzed, as I interpret them, will produce a 'Plutonian' resolution.

[David_Mastrogiovanni]

...of interesting note and in addition to this is that the lunar eclipse on the 26th of June this year [2010...just a few days away] will take place on the 5th degree of Capricorn...possibly the 'Overture' to the Symphony in 'GEE' Major [The Dance of Pluto Retrograde in Cap.] that will commence starting next year...this is definately smething to keep watch upon.