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Sabian analysis of Jupiter, Uranus and Neptune rx 2010-11

Postby David_Mastrogiovanni on Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:14 pm

...this technique is a proposed one...it is empirical as I only saw this arrangement back in 2001 or so...all the professional Astrologers that I know of and have asked what they knew of, or thought of, this technique of analysis have said they hadn't heard of anything like it before but were open to giving it a fair trail of observational judgement and that the proposed technique makes good sound theoretical sense, or at least reasonably so as was the answer I got from at least one fellow Astrologer.
It is based on Dane Rudhyars' work and theorys and I'm surprised than Dane never said anything of it...at least I know of none. I believe He would have got around to it had He lived a bit longer.

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...this is copied from a thread of mine at astrologyweekly.com...I believe you all will find it of interest. [...again...this is an proposed technique based on the writings of Rudhyar and is empirical in that it is still under very much observation...but all indications are 'GO"...]

Greetings, you all should find this interesting especially if you've read my other thread on Pluto retrograde 2011-12 and the thread on Mars retro last December.
Jupiter goes retro on July 24th at 03* Aries 24' [apprx]. The planet of Religion, Philosophy, Brotherhood and Growth hits an impasse at this degree and will go retro to 23* Pisces 30' on Nov. 19th to pick up added energy to break the impasse and release Jovian energy & influence through the 4th degree of Aries as indicated by the Sabian Symbol [from Rudhyars' book] "Two Lovers Strolling On A Secluded Walk. Keynote: The progressive polarization of energies needed for fulfilling ones' life function."The North Node will be at 10* Capricorn 50' indicating the Karmic obligation that Jupiters' action will help satisfy. The symbol for this is [Keyword] ARISTOCRACY ...and this symbol also represents performing all social funtions with the highest refinement...the highest spiritual consciousness.

Jupiter goes retrograde until November 19, 2010 until it comes to [apprx] 23* Pisces 30'. The symbol for the 24th degree of Pisces represents the extra energy, the extra influence of the principal/law represented by the symbol for the 24th degree of Pisces. That symbol in Pisces is, [from Rudhyar] "On A Small Island Surrounded By The Vast Expanse Of The Sea, People Are Seen Living In Close Interaction. Ketnote: The need to consciously accept ones' own personal limitations in order to concentrate ones' energies and to live a centered and fulfilled life."

Of great interest to me is that the North Node at this juncture is at [apprx] 04* Capricorn 35' ...the symbol "Indians On The Warpath...."...the very symbol/degree Pluto is so involved with next year and into 2012...the very degree/symbol of the last Lunar Eclipse.
Again the Node is indicating a Karmic debt or obligation to society....sounds a bit as if it's telling those not near the battlefields/the fronts that they should find a simple, right way of living within their own communities...this is the way to growth in Brotherly love and expansion of the right attitudes and actions.
On Feb. 9, 2011 Jupiter will make its' 'Final Return' to the point it started its retro movement from, i.e. 03* Aries 24'...the North Node will be at 00* Capricorn 14' [apprx].
This is the same degree of the Zodiac and thus the same symbol for the I.C. of the birthchart I have proposed, presented and explained is the true birth chart of Jesus/Yeshua. It was/is the "HOW" of Jesus' chart axis....'HOW' HE would best put his efforts into an attitude or action represented by the Sabian Symbol.
The symbol for the 1st degree of Capricorn is [from Rudhyars' book] "An Indian Chief Claims Power From An Assembled Tribe. Keynote: The power and responsiblity implied in any claim for leadership."
This represents symbolically what the whole retro dance of Jupiter from July to Feb. was all about as per what world society needs as metaphorically illustrated by this symbol.
Well, Mars just did a retro dance that pointed to Sun Rituals that has been given stimulus and promotion...
This scenario of Jupiters current emphasis when coupled with what Neptunes' retrograde dance that started June 1st and with Uranus' retro boogie that commenced July 6th are all three of such a combination of symbolism that indicates to me that world society will be forced/pressured/encouraged/enticed to willfully evolve in spiritual -social consciousness and function and taking all these personal metamorphises' and then applying same to whatever social or political or religious groups one belongs to or is associated to.

I'll follow this thread up with an analysis of Uranus' retro dance from July 6th that culminates next March 22...and also Neptunes retro-thang that began on June 1st just past that discharges on Feb. 26th, 2011...ya' all stay tuned....ptv
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Re: Sabian analysis of Jupiter, Uranus and Neptune rx 2010-11

Postby David_Mastrogiovanni on Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:17 pm

...and this posting followed...

Clarification to the above.
I apologize for the rough hewn text that I had posted above. Not having internet acess at my home presently has limited me to what time I can access the internet...and subsquently very little time for editing what I've written.
I cleaned up the above abit...I trust it is a bit more coherent.
I would like to comment on Jupiters' point of return at the 24th degree of Pisces congruent with the North Node at the 5th degree of Capricorn.
Edgar Cayce foresaw a great war occuring after the start of the 21st century. He said the war will take place in the Middle East and that the Americas will be isolated from the melee by not only the global distance but, most interestingly, also by nature itself in that the seas and the skies will be in such turmoil that travel to the Americas will be difficult to near impossible.
Thus, the symbol of people isolated on an island while the North Node indicates 'War' seems to be in tune with symbolically what Cayce saw many years ago...in that the Americas will become isolated like an island surrounded by a vast sea.
Thus, I'm saying this retro dance of Jupiter may be most reliant on the Americans to fulfill the Jovian mission if I'm interpreting this correctly ...and I believe Cayce said pretty much the same thing as per the Americans having to take a spiritual leadership role in the aftermath of this war.
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Re: Sabian analysis of Jupiter, Uranus and Neptune rx 2010-11

Postby David_Mastrogiovanni on Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:18 pm

...and this post followed...

...Okay...let me re-evaluate this situation.

I took a look at Uranus and Neptune during the same period as the above for Jupiter...give or take a few months...and what I now see overall is much clearer...much more interesting and very timely for all mankind.
For some time now Uranus has been sweeping forward through the Signs followed by Neptune and then Jupiter soon after ...with Pluto doing a follow up some years afterward.
Uranus, a.k.a. 'The Great Awakener' is soon followed by Neptune, a.k.a 'The Beautiful Dream' and then followed by Jupiter to bring growth and expansion.
On July 6th Uranus went retrograde at apprx 00* Aries 35' . The symbol of the 1st degree of Aries is about the impulse to be and the emergence of new potentialites of form[s]. Also on July 10th the North Node was at apprx 11* Capricorn 47' at the same time and the symbol for the 12th degree of Capricorn is about discovering and/or understanding Higher Laws & Realms of Nature. The North Node indicates the Karmic implication that this impasse of Uranus ...trying to 'Awaken' us to potential new forms of being.
Uranus is going to continue in retro until Dec. 7th, 2010 until apprx. 26* Pisces 40' ...the symbol for the 27th degree of Pisces is one of a 'Harvest Moon' and is about reaping what was sown. ...most interestingly the 27th degree of Pisces is where Uranus began its retrograde motion last year, thus this double emphasis upon this degree and symbol must be most poignant!
Thus Uranus must return to this degree to reload with energy ...or to thus re-emphasize what is responsible for the impasse or what is the source of need for the awakening to potentiality of new forms.
The North Node at this time will be at apprx. 03* Capricorn 38' and the symbol for the 4th degree of Cap. is about group activity for change..and thus is indicated Karmically why Uranus has gone retro to the symbol of reaping what was sown...
On March 22nd, 2011 when Uranus returns to 00* Aries 35' the North Node will be at 28* Sagittarius 03' and the symbol for the 29th degree of Sag. is about maintaining social respectability.
...now I'll follow with the analysis for Neptune at this time...it's a doozy in that it is pointing to our economic structures and dealings and how it has to change/evolve spiritually and it draws in Obamas role too...
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Re: Sabian analysis of Jupiter, Uranus and Neptune rx 2010-11

Postby David_Mastrogiovanni on Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:23 am

...followed by this post...

About Neptune...this year on June 1st Neptune went retro at 28* Aquar. 42' [apprx] and the symbol is of 'Metamorphosis... about the potential of every human being to participate in a higher realm of consciousness...the North Node was in the 14th degree of Cap. then and it is symbolically about Historical perspective...about finding what in our history...our past... has value and letting go of what ever else.Neptune will keep going retro to apprx. 25* Aquar. 55' and the symbol for the 26th degree of Aquarius is about Mental Efficiency...the Nth Node at this juncture is at apprx 05* Cap. 10' and the symbol is about a 'Threshold' [again, notice the symbolism about new potentialities as that is what a 'Treshold' represents...] Neptune will complete its final return to 28* Aquarius 42" on Feb. 26, 2011 and the Nth. Node will be at apprx 29* Sag. 20' and the symbol for which is "The Pope Blessing The Faithful"...Rudhyar summed it up as "Personalized Worship".

Now, in 2011, on June 4th Neptune will go retro at apprx 00* Pisces 56' and this is the symbol of "The Marketplace"...it is about 'Commerce'.[/i[i]]..and interestingly this also happens to be President Obamas Part of Catastrophe.When Neptune goes retro here the North Node will be in the 25th degree of Sag. [which so happens to be my Part of Intelligence] and the symbol is about the foreshadowing of things to come of powers, knowledge and abilities yet to be achieved.
Neptune will continue retro to apprx 28* Aquarius 08'...the 29th degree of Aquarius, right where it began it's retro motion this year...thus another double emphasis on symbolism...again, this symbol is about 'Metamorphosis'...the Nth. Node at this juncture will be at the 16th degree of Sag. and the symbol here is about dependence upon socio-economic structures.
Neptune will return to 00* Pisces 56' on Feb. 28, 2012 and at that time the North Node is in the 10th degree of sag. and that symbol is about 'forced growth into common recognized avenues of advancement [spiritual advancement....of course].Thus what the overall message I see here is that the cosmos has decreed that we must evolve into higher spiritually attuned beings in our business dealings with each other along with all other forms of social interaction. The socio-economic structures will have to be seriously re-evaluated and, most likely, forcably evolved into more spiritually
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Re: Sabian analysis of Jupiter, Uranus and Neptune rx 2010-11

Postby David_Mastrogiovanni on Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:24 am

...and my summation...

So there we have this scenario of Uranus, Neptune and Jupiter sweeping through the same degrees of the Zodiac in that order.
The 'Great Awakener'....followed by the 'Great Dreamer'....then followed by Jupiter, the planet that will give growth and expansion to the "Dream that we have awakened to" [Curious symbology, huh?....'Awakening to a Dream'!]Thus with Uranus in a symbol of "Reaping what was sown"...and it has been there repeatedly since May of 2009...it seems to me that the economic-socio-political trouble this world is currently going through is a culmination of past action in our dealings with one another AND IT IS TIME TO WAKE UP AND SEE WHAT HAS BEEN SOWN AND HOW BAD OFF OUR GARDEN REALLY IS.
Neptune entering the 1st degree of Pisces for the first time in over 150 years is an indication of a new paradyme for "Commerce" about to given to the world...
All the Node symbolisms are about new beginings... & Neptune will be heavily emphasizing the symbol of 'Metamorphosis'...all pointing to economic structures and dealings.
THIS IS SUCH A TIMELY MESSAGE AND SO CLEAR CUT!
FOREWARNED IS FOREARMIt is very, very nteresting about the 1st degree of Pisces being President Obamas Part of Catastrophe....it goes right along with all my observations and threads on Sabian Symbolism in/through Arabic Parts...and my theory that the Part of Catastrophe is symbolically one that can't be avoided as it is destined...but...certainly we each have the power [especially when forewarned through Sabian Astrology] to mitagate it...to control the spin it takes!FOREWARNED IS FOREARMED!
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Re: Sabian analysis of Jupiter, Uranus and Neptune rx 2010-11

Postby David_Mastrogiovanni on Sat Aug 07, 2010 2:28 pm

Well, I was discussing with a colleague over the net about Venus' movements....the reknowned Pentagram it makes with its conjs. with the Sun and all...started plotting its movements these last 40 years and found myself more and more fascinated by its retro movements instead. [I just can't seem to get away from exploring this technique.]
What I saw for Venus' next retro dance floored me!
Venus does a retro thing about every year and a half...thus its dance must be most symbolically significant.
Venus will begin its retro thing this year on Oct 9th at the 14th degree of Scorpio...[symbol and def. Rudhyar] "TELEPHONE LINEMEN INSTALLING NEW LINES OF COMMUNICATION. Keynote: The need to establish new channels of communication"....at that time the N. Node will be at the 7th of Capricorn, [symbol and def. Rudhyar] "A VEILED PROPHET SPEAKS SEIZED BY THE POWER OF A GOD. Keynote: The ability to act as a mouthpiece for the revelation of a transcendent will and truth determining future action."
Wow, here we have two symbols both about 'Communication'...
Venus will go direct again on the 19th of November at the 28th degree of Libra...the Same day that Jupiter goes direct again in the 24th of Pisces...nearly in Quincuncx to one another...but most disturbingly is the N. Node in that 5th degree of Cap. again..."INDIANS ON THE WARPATH...etc."
...Venus will make its 'Final Return' to the impasse point [apprx. 13* 13' Scorpio] on Dec 20th and the N. Node will be at the 3rd of Cap. [symbol and def. Rudhyar] "A HUMAN SOUL, IN ITS EAGERNESS FOR NEW EXPERIENCES, SEEKS EMBODIMENT. Keynote: A powerful yearning for whatever will increase the scope and depth of ones' contacts with other living beings."

An overall view of the Venus retro movement this year in relation to the retro movements of Jupiter, Uranus and Neptune...mentioned above...seems to me to be of the same overall 'Tenor' of message that the other three planets are indicating...int that Humankind will have to grow and mutate into new directions...but Venus here is also indicating 'Communication', so these avenues of growth/mutation that Venus is concerned with are of 'Communication'...and the symbols for a 'Veiled Prophet' could indicate an actuall manifestation or recognition/revelation of some member of World Society who will give us needed words to understand and participate...[or, if I may be so bold and optimistic to believe it could mean that we all learn to utilize the Sabians for their 'prophecy'...as the 'Starry Script'...is one that is read by he/she who 'pierces the vale/veil'...]
...The 3rd of Cap. symbol about a 'Human Soul Seeking Embodiment' at this time does indicate that a number of children will be born this period that will be innovators/instruments of positive change for the future to come and I kind of wonder if it might not be linked to the symbol for the 'Veiled Prophet' to be so hopeful that an ordained one will be born at this period ...are we about to enter an age of 'Prophecy' once again...?
I believe most Rabbis would give me an argument over this...esp. since I am a gentile...but I think we are!
...In all honesty...I believe we already are!
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