What precisely do 'winds' mean?

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Re: What precisely do 'winds' mean?

Postby Abd-Allah Meyers on Mon Sep 26, 2011 2:21 am

Dear Mr Kojuharov,

Thank you for the prompt answer. My efforts to even read the article on line found it referenced often but without text, so it you could e-mail it to me this would be much appreciated.

Since you appear to be very knowledgeable on the subject, hopefully you will find time to comment on the question of the Aristotelian paradigm and why it apparently was not adopted by the founders of Hellenic astrology.

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Re: What precisely do 'winds' mean?

Postby Dimityr Kojuharov on Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:58 am

I recommend you one another scientific article, which examines an ancient Greek manuscript, more accurate an ancient map of the world, which includes a windrose, zones, places in and around Egypt, all this in the astrological context:

Evelyn Edson and Emilie Savage-Smith, An Astrologer's Map: A Relic of Late Antiquity , Imago Mundi, Vol. 52 (2000), pp. 7-29

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Re: What precisely do 'winds' mean?

Postby Abd-Allah Meyers on Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:53 am

Dear Mr Kojuharov,

Thanks for your new reference. Alas, I have the same difficulty. Internet searches list the article several times but no access to the text itself seems possible.

Perhaps we shall again, like e. g. for determination of the Predominator(rix) or Prorogator(rix) ('apheta'), after much diligent research have a list of diverging opinions. In my humble opinion research, translation, understanding and repetition of the ancient sources is only a first, albeit often difficult, step. Mastery consists in achieving considered synthesis after logical analyses and experimental testing of the various hypotheses.

In this thread one basic question is: the Aristotelian paradigm of the elements and their correspondences in (Hellenic and Mediaeval) astrology - no, yes, perhaps partially and - WHY?

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Re: What precisely do 'winds' mean?

Postby Abd-Allah Meyers on Tue Sep 27, 2011 2:25 am

Greetings,

Here is a link to an English translation of another in my humble opinion quite useful article on the topic, "Avatars of the Astrological Zodiac" by the French astrologer and authoress Dr. Patrice Guinard:

http://cura.free.fr/25avazod.html

She mentions for example that Paul of Alexandria states different attributions of the four elements to the four trigons than the Aristotelian and that, once again as for e.g. the confines, there appears to have been a 'Chaldean' and an 'Egyptian' school, perhaps due to the different climates and basic meteorological phenomena of these regions.

The French original and a Spanish translation are also available at the above stated web site.

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