Therese_Hamilton wrote:Dear Ms. Griscti,
I’ve studied your attractively done chart, but I do see the triplicity lords somewhat differently, I’m not sure, for example, of Hermes following diurnal Cronus more closely since his domicile and exaltation are in the nocturnal Virgin. Also I see the exaltation of Helios in the Ram as being of primary importance. May I ask the source of the glyphs you used since there are projects I’m working on that could use them?
Like many of us, I’m having some trouble adapting to Mr. Schmidt’s terminology. Elsewhere on the ACT site he’s discussed the three-fold arrangement of images, and from Antiochus he calls them tropical, double-bodied and solid (p. 93 in D&F). These have somewhat different meanings than our modern terms of cardinal, fixed and mutable. It might be helpful to summarize here notes from Mr. Schmidt’s post under the Miscellaneous Question topic on March 18, 2009:
TROPICAL IMAGES: liable to turning or liable to change; Mr. Schmidt suggests that in the Thema Mundi tropical images relate to the four angles and the turning or oscillating (pivotal) motion of the ecliptic during the day. These images tend to break off prior to completion or reverse themselves. Most likely they are not related to the seasons and cannot be used as support for the tropical zodiac.
I believe that when we understand the natures of the trigons we’ll better understand the assignment of trigon lords. Ultimately this becomes a zodiac issue which I’m studying now. I’m not sure in modern times how useful the participating lords would be. Perhaps they can be used only for periods of the life. In summary we have at least three ways of looking at the origins of the trigon lords: the Thema Mundi as the key (Mr. Schmidt), Ms. Griscti’s emphasis on solid images, and an exalted and domicile primary lord for each trigon, some of these seemingly by default. Of primary importance, of course, is the question of how well the trigon lords work when applied to natal and progressed charts.
I’ve had to use all caps for emphasis in this post because when I tried to edit for bold and italic, the screen kept jumping around. If anyone knows how to solve this problem please let me know.
Jane Griscti wrote:Thank you for taking the time to read my post and comment. Your comment on Hermes not following Kronos because of domicile and exaltation in Virgo is interesting; I'm inclined to consider Hermes as naturally tending more to the dry than wet due to his Fall in Pisces, a wet sign.
I believe he says "...we cannot say for certain whether Antiochus himself would have argued for a tropical zodiac.". (p.85).
I do find it curious that not all authors assign 3 triplicity lords, Paulus only mentions two for each triplicity and the Anitochus text doesn't mention them at all.
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