David_Stricker wrote:Decimation versus Striking with a Ray
One of the things that I have learned while studying Hellenistic Astrology is that I don't know the complete definitions of the English words that are in Mr. Schmidt's translation. For all his efforts to focus on the Greek words, I am sure he would be pleased to know that my vocabulary is expanding as a result of his efforts.
David_Stricker wrote:I have to admit when I first saw the title, I was thinking of decimation as merely a destructive word, like devastation. For example, "The army's strength was decimated" or "The tornado decimated the town". I did not think deeply enough about what it really meant. The phrases I just mention could mean devastated, if losing a tenth of the army or a tenth of a town was considered to be devastation.
I did not realize the exact meanings of the word:
1) " to select by lot and kill every tenth man of"
2)" to exact a tax of 10 percent from"
3)a:" to reduce drastically especially in number b: to cause great destruction or harm to".
These are from a Webster's dictionary and I was at least glad to realize that my understanding of the word, decimation, was one of the meanings, but not necessarily the most useful in this instance for the astrological usage
David_Stricker wrote:So here is what I am interested in. There are two planets that are 10 images apart. One planet is overcoming and extracting a 10th of something from the other planet. The planet being overcome, could, if the portions are close enough and in the right order, be striking the planet with a ray in a destructive manner. Do you see what I am interested in here? This interaction between these two planets seems to have at least two layers of interactions going on that needs to be delineated. The planet in the 10th sign is taking something from the other planet while it is overcoming it or coming down upon it. The other planet is throwing a ray as to strike the planet in the 10th image, that could be a destructive act. It seems that both planets "lose" in this situation and would not seem to be "good" for the native, especially if malefics are involved.
Jane Griscti wrote:Whoa! So much information I'm probably putting my foot in it here but you've got my mind spinning with regards to neighbouring.
My first thought is that there will naturally be different types of neighbouring because the confine lords and their situations will differ; similar to your thinking along the lines of which type of neighbours actually exist in the world.
Second, why is neighbouring seen to intensify? I believe, if you consider that the lord of the confines is said to restrict the planet in some way, that neighbouring intensifies because both planets have to deal with the same set of restrictions. We also have the added concept of watching over, are they watching over each other to ensure the limits imposed by the confine lord are respected? If they were each in different confines they would each have a different set of limits, would they be 'watching over' each other for different reasons? Does being in the same confines mean they are both watching for the same thing? Would that narrowing of focus intensify their actions?
Third, is the neighbouring even more intense if the confines lord also has another relation with the planets i.e. is in a figural conjunction or testimony relation with the planets in adherence or to one or more of the planets neighbouring by configural conjunction.
Certainly a lot of food for thought
Jane Griscti wrote:Second, why is neighbouring seen to intensify?
Mr Noblehorse wrote:I feel (at least on this one level) much more neighborly towards those who share the same principles...
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