Edgar Cayces' Birth Chart...Was He The Real Deal?

[David_Mastrogiovanni]

...from a thread of mine at astrologyweekly...


I ran across the chart while researching birth data for another person the other day.
I had the data for Cayce but never attempted to produce a chart for the man as I don't trust the time of day from birth data that is from before the 20th century that gives times of the exact hour or half hour.
The time given for Edgar Cayce is 3:00 pm and I believe now that it is most likely correct...give or take a minute.
The chart produced gives the 21st degree of Leo as the Asc. This degree of the Zodiac I know all too well. It is the same degree my natal Pluto is in.
The symbol for the degree is: "INTOXICATED CHICKENS DIZZILY FLAP THEIR WINGS TRYING TO FLY." Rudhyars summation of the definition for this symbol is [Rudhyars' Keyword{s}] "THE PREMATURE EXPANSION OF CONSCIOUSNESS."This particular degree and symbol were the first to convince me of the possible validity of the Sabian Symbols back in 1984 when my brother introduced me to 'real Astrology' and the Sabian Symbols.
As my natal Pluto is in that degree...Pluto the Planet of Transformation...I connected the symbolism with an out of body experience the very first time I meditated using a Japa Yoga technique back in 68' when I was 15.
As the Asc. and Desc. of the birth chart [the "Horizon"] represent the "WHO" and "WHERE-TO" of ones spiritual blueprint it is a most appropriate symbol for Cayce in light of his life experiences and especially so as He did become consciously expanded at a very young age.
The Sabian Symbol for the I.C and M.C. of ones chart is symbolically "HOW" and "WHY" ones is to achieve the destiny laid out in the chart horizon.
In this birth chart we find the 14th degree of Scorpio for the I.C.
The Sabian Symbol and definition for which is [from Rudhyars' book] "TELEPHONE LINEMEN INSTALLING NEW CONNECTIONS. Keynote: The need to establish new channels of communication." and Rudhyars' summation of the definition [his Keyword{s}] "THE WILL TO ASSOCIATION OR COMPREHENSION."You couldn't find a more appropriate symbol from the 360 that there are to represent 'HOW' Edgar Cayce did fulfill his destiny/dharma...He did establish those "Connections" by becoming the greatest "Channel" of the 20th century.

...here's the chart...

[David_Mastrogiovanni]

...and also from astrologyweekly...


Also of importance and of extreme interest is that Uranus is conj. the Asc. within one degree.
Planets, Luminaries and the Nodes when in close conjunction to one of the chart axis ordinates [angular house cusps] add their Sabian Symbology to the one of the cusp in question. This should be thought of as assissting the symbology as it is tempered by the 'Orb' in question.Here we find Uranus in the 22nd degree of Leo. The Symbol for this degree is [from Rudhyar and his definition.] "A CARRIER PIGEON FULFILLING ITS MISSION. Keynote: Spirituality, in terms of training for service to mankind.In contrast with the intoxicated chicken, we now have the sucessfully trained carrier pigeon delivering the message it was its function to carry. Here the domesticated bird is seen endowed with a special significance and purpose. This refers to spiritual energies which are being used constructively and which bring to the consciousness messages from other realms. Individual realizations acquire their true meanin only as they fulfill a collective function." [and Rudhyars' summation] "This...symbol clearly presents a contrasting alternative to what the preceding picture revealed. The 'release' of higher energies becomes effective and valuable to the extent to which it serves a higher, but concrete and definate, purpose. This is the ideal of the [Rudhyars' Keyword{s}] WORLD SERVER."

Uranus, the higher octave of Mercury, which is often called "The Great Awakener", obviously did its' job here.
Cayce was born as a being "WHO" essentially was one of "Expanded Consciousness" that "Awakened" to being a "World Server".
"How" he was destined to fulfill his chart dharma was by establishing communication with Ascended Beings/Bhodisatvas/Angels/"Spirit Guides"...by becoming a "Channel"...

...and look at those Quintiles...especially Plutos!!!
...I hope that by now many of you are getting convinced that Sabian Symbolic chart axis analysis works... if you had been unknowledgable or skeptical of the Symbols and/or technique before.
I think It is a least half of the knowledge you need to apply to a birth chart to be able to truly understand the individual being in question.

[David_Mastrogiovanni]

...ditto...


Greetings. I started thinking about what I said above as to never trusting a birth time from that long ago that had the time as an exact hour or half hour ...etc...
I realized of whose birth time I was questioning and the thought hit me that, of course it would have to be the right time.
We're talking Edgar Cayce here. The most remarkable seer of the past in recorded history...if anyone was sure of when they were born it would have to be Edgar...funny, it had never occured to me before....but then again, I was pretty pre-occupied to give it any thought.

...I like this chart even more now.

[note: As I had to reply to someones protest at another forum about my usage of this data] A worst case scenario is that, if Cayce never gave this time but, it is the time originally recorded it could in all likelyhood be [not more than] a half hour off either way. ...that doesn't leave a whole lot of alternatives to the chart axis and of those alternatives none of them come close to describing Cayce like this one for 3:00 pm.
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[David_Mastrogiovanni]

...another re-post from the same aforementioned thread...



The Part of Fortune for Cayces chart is in the 5th degree of Libra.

From Rudhyars book we get the symbol and His definition.
"Libra 5*: A MAN REVEALING TO HIS STUDENTS THE FOUNDATION OF AN INNER KNOWLEDGE UPON WHICH A 'NEW WORLD' COULD BE BUILT. Keynote: The necessity for the youthful spirits to learn from a Teacher who through his long experience has been able to reach solid and illuminating truths, i.e. 'seed ideas.'
An old saying is just as valid today as ever: When the pupil is ready, the Master appears. But he may appear in many disguises. What matters is not the Master, but the Mastery he 're-veals.' It is veiled in his person. It has to be contacted through his person, rather than in his person. Devotion to a guru may be the way, but sooner or later it should be transmuted into reverence: the truth within the disciple saluting in true humility the truth in the teacher."
...and Rudhyars' summation, "...What is evoked by the symbol is the essential, withal rather mysterious, process of {Rudhyars' Keyword} TRANSMISSION. What is transmitted, if the situation is really adequate and understood [at least tentatively] by all participants, is not merely knowledge. It is actually 'being-ness.' "


...so let us review... The Transmission of Knowledge was symbolically Cayces' Part of Fortune?...hmmmmm...
hmmmm...DO YOU THINK?
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[David_Mastrogiovanni]

...from the astrologyweekly thread of mine...

Okay, let's get away from Sabians for a bit and analyze that Uranus conj. Asc. aspect.
I immediately like it just for the looks of it. I find Planets, Luminaries and Nodes conj. chart axis points [angular house cusps] so fascinating!

According to Sakoian and Ackers "Astrologers Handbook" [one of my favs. as it delineates on the metaphysical/paranormal/esoteric/occult proclivities that are provided by aspects.] ...Sakoian and Acker say of people born with this aspect..."They are alert and quick in their response and extremely individualistic, with strong interests in the unusual, either scientific or occult. Their intuitive faculties are highly developed and they are able to tap a superconscious level of knowledge, gaining insights beyond the capacity of the average individual. If well aspected by other planets, this conjunction often leads one into the study of Astrology."...and..."...They are often leaders in revolutionary activities, social philosophies, and new scientific ideas"

...it certainly fits the profile!

[David_Mastrogiovanni]

...and, again, from my thread at astrologyweekly.com...


Well...how about another Arabic Part interpretation via the Sabians?
Let's look at the Part of Sudden Advancement. [Asc. + Part of Fortune - Saturn]
For this chart that calculates to be at 24* Pisces 12', i.e. the 25th degree of Pisces.From Rudhyars' book we get the Sabian Symbol and His definition.

Pisces 25*: "A RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION SUCCEEDS IN OVERCOMING THE CORRUPTING INFLUENCE OF PERVERTED PRACTICES AND MATERIALIZED IDEALS. Keynote: The power of the Soul to intervene in the personal life and to induce necessary catharses.The necessary centralization of the conscious attention and will symbolized by the preceding picture [Pisces 24*. Dave M.] most often bring negative results-exclusivism, pride, jealousy, greed for power and wealth. Every man is a Church that has the Soul as its god, but most men forget the Soul and live according to dogmatic rules and habits which not only have become empty of inner meaning, but very often have been perverted by the demands of the senses and the emotional nature and by the ego with its rationalizing intellect. A purging or catharsis is needed to restore not only fresh and creative spontaneity, but even more the contact with the Soul and the God-ordained dharma."
...and Rudhyars' 'Keyword' for this Symbol is "PURIFICATION".

...Well, again I'm reminded of the fact that Cayce said, that at times, the "Great White Brotherhood" and "Saint Germain" himself were his "Guides" i.e. whom Cayce was 'Channeling'...
Interestingly, this symbol does pretty much sum up a lot of the GWBs' work/efforts...as the legend goes.

...Can I get a big HHHHMMMmmmmmmmmm....from the choir?
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