Symbolic Interpretation of the Arabic Parts/Lots

[David_Mastrogiovanni]

[...from a post of mine at astrologyweekly.com...
...it's from my proposed birth chart for Jesus/Yeshua again...I feel it's pertinent.]


Since I brought up the Arabic Part of Love/Appreciation I might as well get into that.

Now, I'm about the last person to ask what "Love" is...been trying to figure that one out my entire life...if you look at my chart you'll understand why.
Scorpio asc...Venus in Aries in the 5th house...Venus opp a Saturn/Neptune conj. and square Uranus....and Venus quincuncx the Asc.
[Alas...poor me.]

The Arabic Part of Love/Appreciation [Asc + Venus - Sun] for this chart is at 25* Leo 37'.
[Interestingly, it is "Miss Xs'" Part of Love also....Miss X shares a lot of degrees and hence symbology with Jesus/Yeshua in Arabic Parts but this is the only Part that is the same Part...i.e. The Part of Love....read my book for more on Miss X and how her proclivities and my study of her birth chart led me to recognizing this chart for Jesus/Yeshua...here's a teaser, my clairvoyant friend, Clarisse Conner, told me that Miss X had been one of Jesus/Yeshuas' "nannies" {for want of a better word} in a past lifetime...I was supposedly in that time in acquaintance with the Man also, by the way...but I ain't saying who!]
This is such a profound degree and symbol of the Zodiac [see my theory on the Seven & the Five for more on that].

From Rudhyars' book on the Sabians we get the symbol and this definition.
"Leo 26* AFTER THE HEAVY STORM, A RAINBOW. Keynote: Linking above and below, the Covenant with ones' divine nature, promise of immortality.


...I was intending to copy the entire definition by Rudhyar...make a few comments...etc...
I've decided not to. I'll let everyone decide how this applies to Jesus/Yeshua themselves...I don't think it needs my help!
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[David_Mastrogiovanni]

[...also from a post of mine at astrologyweekly.com...and again it is from my proposed chart for Jesus/Yeshua...and it is sooooo pertinent and right on...]

...I find this one particulary beautiful...


The Arabic Part of Faith/Trust/Belief [Asc + Mercury - Moon] illustrates through Sabian Symbology in which of the 360 symbolic principals/laws one resides his/her 'Faith' in.
For my proposed chart it calculates to 02* Taurus 24', the 3rd degree of Taurus.
From Rudhyars book; "Taurus 3*; NATURAL STEPS LEAD TO A LAWN OF CLOVER IN BLOOM. Keynote: The gradual expansion of the individual consciousness after a fecundating experience. Having been "activated' by electrical energy [Aries is 'Electrical Energy'...ptv], the pure water of the mountain stream is able to fertilize the soil which covers itself with small blossoms. 'Clover' however, is normally a symbol of the Triad ['Trinity'], and thus of the often-mentioned 'three natures' in man. To reach the flowering garden of mind, the consciousness must proceed by steps. Effort is needed. What is reached is a flowering display of the simple, quite humble kind, yet bees are after it for honey. There is sweetness and energy latent in the blossoms."
...[and from Rudhyars' summation] "...It is a stage at which one should seek with dilligence and determination, but in humility and faith, to reach NATURAL FULLFILMENT."


...I don't think I need to add any commentary here either!
It's all too obvious that Jesus/Yeshuas' FAITH resided in the "TRINITY"!!!
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[David_Mastrogiovanni]

[...this is a re-post from another thread on the great American clairvoyant, Edgar Cayce, that I would like to add to this thread also as it is quite pertinent to the subject. I apologize to those of you that have already read this. Dave M.]


The Part of Fortune for Edgar Cayces chart is in the 5th degree of Libra. From Rudhyars book we get the symbol and His definition.
"Libra 5*: A MAN REVEALING TO HIS STUDENTS THE FOUNDATION OF AN INNER KNOWLEDGE UPON WHICH A 'NEW WORLD' COULD BE BUILT. Keynote: The necessity for the youthful spirits to learn from a Teacher who through his long experience has been able to reach solid and illuminating truths, i.e. 'seed ideas.']An old saying is just as valid today as ever: When the pupil is ready, the Master appears. But he may appear in many disguises. What matters is not the Master, but the Mastery he 're-veals.' It is veiled in his person. It has to be contacted through his person, rather than in his person. Devotion to a guru may be the way, but sooner or later it should be transmuted into reverence: the truth within the disciple saluting in true humility the truth in the teacher."
...and Rudhyars' summation, "...What is evoked by the symbol is the essential, withal rather mysterious, process of {Rudhyars' Keyword} TRANSMISSION. What is transmitted, if the situation is really adequate and understood [at least tentatively] by all participants, is not merely knowledge. It is actually 'being-ness.' "

...so let us review... The Transmission of Knowledge was symbolically Cayces' Part of Fortune?...hmmmmm...
hmmmm...DO YOU THINK?

[David_Mastrogiovanni]

[...more on Edgar Cayces' Part/Lots, from another thread...I post it here as well as it is quite pertinent...thanks.]



...and, again, from my thread at astrologyweekly.com...


Well...how about another Arabic Part interpretation via the Sabians?
Let's look at the Part of Sudden Advancement. [Asc. + Part of Fortune - Saturn]
For this chart that calculates to be at 24* Pisces 12', i.e. the 25th degree of Pisces.From Rudhyars' book we get the Sabian Symbol and His definition.

Pisces 25*: "A RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION SUCCEEDS IN OVERCOMING THE CORRUPTING INFLUENCE OF PERVERTED PRACTICES AND MATERIALIZED IDEALS. Keynote: The power of the Soul to intervene in the personal life and to induce necessary catharses.The necessary centralization of the conscious attention and will symbolized by the preceding picture [Pisces 24*. Dave M.] most often bring negative results-exclusivism, pride, jealousy, greed for power and wealth. Every man is a Church that has the Soul as its god, but most men forget the Soul and live according to dogmatic rules and habits which not only have become empty of inner meaning, but very often have been perverted by the demands of the senses and the emotional nature and by the ego with its rationalizing intellect. A purging or catharsis is needed to restore not only fresh and creative spontaneity, but even more the contact with the Soul and the God-ordained dharma."
...and Rudhyars' 'Keyword' for this Symbol is "PURIFICATION".

...Well, again I'm reminded of the fact that Cayce said, that at times, the "Great White Brotherhood" and "Saint Germain" himself were his "Guides" i.e. whom Cayce was 'Channeling'...
Interestingly, this symbol does pretty much sum up a lot of the GWBs' work/efforts...as the legend goes.

...Can I get a big HHHHMMMmmmmmmmmm....from the choir?

[David_Mastrogiovanni]

Greetings. I'd like to share some recent observations. A woman at the astrologyweekly.com forum was serching for Astrological indicators of psychic/paranormal talents.
I pointed out to her a couple that were overlooked by the other members [as I rarely get involved with interp. of natal charts as there are so many people far better at it than I...some of you may have noticed by now that 'Theoretical Astrology and Mundane Astrology" are my grooves].
She and I hit it off right from the start and after a number of e-mails between us more was revealed about her nature [she is a very spiritual person] and she kept coming back to the topic of her present 'transformation' into a more evolved spiritual being.
I finally got the notion that something may be affecting her Part of Transformation {Asc. + Uranus - Mars]...and so I asked her where that Part is on her natal chart.
She replied it is at 22* Libra 20'...BINGO!!!
My natal Saturn is at 22* Libra 16' and my natal Neptune is at 21* Libra 52'...It turns out that I am the agent affecting her Part of Transformation at the present...

She also brought to my attention an Arabic Part that I have ignored for the reason that it utilizes the M.C. rather than the Asc. in the calculations...this is the Part of Destiny...[M.C + Sun - Moon {although the source has the formula reversed for births at night but I don't prescribe to that theory of changing Part formulas from day to night...most esp the Part of Fortune}].

Curious, I calculated mine and it seems to be right on...I got the 17th degree of Scorpio [My Asc is the 18th degree of Scorp.] it is a symbol of relying totally upon the dictates of God from within myself...and ...as the Shivites say...."So Ham" or "God dwells within you as you"

And I did the calc. for my proposed birth chart of Jesus/Yeshua and I get 13* Cap. 14'

The symbol for which is [from Rudhyars' book on the Sabians]: "AN ANCIENT BAS=RELIEF CARVED IN GRANITE REMAINS A WITNESS TO A LONG-FORGOTTEN CULTURE. Keynote: The will to unearth, in our culture as well as in any culture, what has permanent value, and to let go of nonessentials."

...Sounds about right to me. The Transfiguration is an ultimate act of the above statement...letting go of nonessentials!

[David_Mastrogiovanni]

...a post from my thread on this subject over at the astrologyweekly.com forum...


Greetings again. I've been doing some background historical reading on the Arabic Parts and have been reading Robert Zoellers book on the subject.
He quotes Bonatti a great deal...and although I find Bonatti provides more erroneous info that what I consider correct I did find something of interest the other day [or, re-discovered...as I probably should say].
It is the Part of Hyleg for which the formula is; Asc. + Natal Moon - Last Full Moon Prior to Birth.
Apparently this Part was considered in high regard as it was also referred to as the 'Radix Vitae' [root of life] and was not often commented on and fell out of use by around the 14th century. It is identified with being an indication of ones highest spiritual purpose in the present incarnation.
I've yet to apply this to my proposed birth chart for Jesus but I did calculate mine and it came up 02* Pisces 40'...the 3rd degree of Pisces.
This is a big eye opener for me as that is the degree of the Part of Fortune for a chart I cast for writing my next book on the Arabic Parts.
From Rudhyars' book on the Sabian Symbols we get this description and definition. "PETRIFIED TREE TRUNKS LIE BROKEN ON DESERT SAND. Keynote: The power to preserve records of their achievements which is inherent in fully matured cultures.
When a vast group of men succeed in building a culture with strong institutions which express themselves in significant symbols and works of art or literature, such an effort of many generations is rarely lost altogether. In one form or another, records of this culture endure or are mysteriously preserved, simply because they reveal the place and function of this particular culture int the long process of unfoldment of the potentialities inherent in archetypal MAN. It is such a concept that has been mythified and popularized in the religious idea of the resurrection of the dead on the Last Day. The symbol of petrified wood in the Arizona desert, however, tells us that the actual preservation of the records is never perfect or total. Only fragments remain, significant enough to reveal the essential archetypal form."
...and Rudhyar goes on about "...the preservation of the enduring [because archetypally meaningful] factors in whatever man attempts within his culture."

...well, I am trying to piece together the meaningful records of Astrology and preserve them...so my response to this is YES!

...I should add that this Part of Hyleg is considered the root of the other parts...it was said to be able to exist without the others but the others cannot exist with out it.
...I had to think about it some more...as to why it was reported to have fallen out of use.
The reason given is that it is the Part that all the other Parts are 'rooted' to.
Thus, as a point of activation it seems to mean little in understanding it...but with a set of Sabian Symbols the Part of Hyleg now becomes a Part of most importance and should now be once again a Part not to be overlooked.
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[David_Mastrogiovanni]

...while the following isn't about Sabians per se...it is relevant to the topic of Arabic Parts and I submit it here as it should be of great interest to all that work with the Parts/Lots...it is a copy of a post of mine at astrologyweekly.com


"...I wish to clarify for the record that I asked my clairvoyant friend and spiritual confidante, Clarisse Conner, some years ago as to what the Part derived from the formula Asc. + Merc. - Mars would best be described/titled as...I asked; "Clarisse, if Asc. + Mars - Mercury is the Part of Intelligence [of which we were both 100% convinced as correct] then what would the opposite formula [as stated above] be then? ...the Part of Ignorance?"...Clarisse replied; "I see it as the Part of Innocence"...and you know what?...so it has proven itself to be...
I am currently utilizing Clarisses unique and wonderful gift to further dilineate some of the obscure Parts ...such as I am presently awaiting Her call on the formula; Asc. + Saturn - Moon ...[some have identified this as the Part of Identity, other titles, but of obscure origin and little use, are the Part of Influence and the Part of Oration] as that is such an obscure and little known of/used Part...I tentatively have a book coming out in tandem with Lynda Hill on Sabian interpreting Arabic Parts [if I ever get my, ahem, horse in gear] and Clarisse will play a great part in this endeavor.
I'll keep all interested parties informed of progress as we go along."

[David_Mastrogiovanni]

...a repost from astrologyweekly.com forum as per the above...r.e. THE ANSWER!!! [and most profound too!!!!]


Okay...I got a reply from the renowned clairvoyant, Clarisse Conner...who has proven herself repeatedly over the years I've know her for all such matters pertaining to the astrological.
[this is as to Asc. + Saturn - Moon, which I refer to in the post above as the 'Part of Identity']
Here is Her message verbatim:

"The Dark of the Moon brings annihilation of dreams keeps coming to me on this. Hard Wisdom gained in front of large audiences. It is an Illusion to the True Self....because it happens to the part of you that is observed and known to others, not to the True Self at all...but can be a huge challenge to the Soul."

...thus what I getting here is that it is something about you...an identity or identifying trait that the world sees in you...of you...but you haven't a clue to your self...thus it has revealed itself [due to Clareisses' astounding gift] to be one of the most inpoetant Arabic Parts one should know of oneself...!!!!
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[David_Mastrogiovanni]

as to the above post...my Part of identity is 15* Cancer 24' which is conj. my natal Uranus
From Rudhyar's book on the Sabians:
(CANCER 16°): "A MAN STUDYING A MANDALA IN FRONT OF HIM, WITH THE HELP OF A VERY ANCIENT BOOK."

As Rudhyars book on the Sabian Symbols is fully titled: "An Astrological Mandala: The Cycle Of Transformations And Its 360 Symbolic Phases" ...I rest my case!